governor kasich is right that his policies, fundamentally different than obama's, lower taxes, close the budget deficit, make -- create a regulatory environment that encourages investment and certainty, that those are improving the situation. governor romney is also, however, correct that there's a long way to go and that there are lots of people in ohio and elsewhere around this country who are unemployed or underemployed, and we have huge progress. and 2% gdp growth is nothing to crow about. in fact, it's less growth than in 2011 and less than 2010. >> all the economic news is because of republican policies and all of the bad economic news is because of democratic policies? >> you said it. not me. >> it's funny. it's just disingenuous. >> how much of this is a problem in terms of how people feel, rachel? we see more economic optimism in the country and, yet, people are still feeling like the obama record is lackluster, and you look at the recovery, still not feeling like it's robust enough. >> yeah, and you see it just in the raw consumer confidence numbers. you see consumer confid